       TRAVELLER Digest 59

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: bows and crossbows by Shalom Zaidfeld <cs911408@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
  2) What Next? by Shalom Zaidfeld <cs911408@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
  3) Re: Things Battle-Rider by "Les Howie"  <lhowie@cpx.Prograph.Com>
  4) Mass Driver Guns by PETER MCNAE <pmcnae@ozemail.com.au>
  5) bows + TNE by cs5025@wlv.ac.uk (L.T.Bryant)
  6) WARNING: message delayed at "tu-clausthal.de" by pp@sodom.rz.tu-clausthal.de
  7) Re: Things Battle-Rider by merrick@RT66.com (Merrick Burkhardt)
  8) Re: Bows & Crossbows by ccjoe@showme.missouri.edu (Joseph Heck)

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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 21:21:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Shalom Zaidfeld <cs911408@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
To: TNE Mailing List <traveller@MPGN.COM>
Subject: Re: bows and crossbows
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941002211402.5922B-100000@blue>


On Sun, 2 Oct 1994 LENSCOTT@aol.com wrote:

> In looking over my copy of TNE, I noticed that although there is a skill
for
> archery and early firearms (which specifically includes crossbows), there
are
> no weapon stats for bows, arrows, or crossbows.  Is there an errata sheet
> which includes these weapons, or has anyone else made up suitable stats for
> these?

There are no stats for cross/bows, Black powder weapons in Traveller: The 
New Era Rules Book.  Check The Reformation Coalition Equipment Guide 
(order number: 0310), pages 102-103 for the above weapons.  Check Also 
the World Tamers Handbook for black powder weapon design rules and some 
equipment examples (Muskets, Cannons, Wagans, etc..)

Hope I Helped,

 -Shalom Zaidfeld


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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 21:27:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Shalom Zaidfeld <cs911408@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
To: TNE Mailing List <traveller@MPGN.COM>
Subject: What Next?
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941002212129.5922C-100000@blue>

Hello Fellow Travellers,

 Well, World Tamers Handbook is out, what is next to come out?
and by the way, where is Loren (GDW)?  Haven't seen him around here.

 -Shalom Zaidfeld


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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 22:48:09 ADT
From: "Les Howie"  <lhowie@cpx.Prograph.Com>
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: Things Battle-Rider
Message-ID: <9410030148.AA27744@Prograph.Com>

Michael Llaneza <mllaneza@mercury.sfsu.edu> writes
> Would anyone be interested in Battle Rider stats for the ships from 
> Brilliant Lances and the World Tamers Handbook? Would GDW be upset if I 
> ran them here? They weren't a lot of work to do, but I'd like to save the 
> rest of you the trouble...
> 

Very much interested.  I may buy WTH, but I do not think I will be picking up
BL
anyway, so I would be very interested.  Besides BL ratings, if you could
include
(if provided) prices in MCr, I would also find that interesting.

> Alos, would the person running the BR pbem games please contact we... I 
> lost your email address...
> 

You have doubtless seen Joe's posting. (ccjoe@showme.missouri.edu) I have
also 
been in touch with him about his BR plans, and I hope that we will be able to

cross metaphorical swords in the near future.



Les Howie
Technical Architect (Database)
Prograph International


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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 14:11:46 +1000
From: PETER MCNAE <pmcnae@ozemail.com.au>
To: traveller@MPGN.COM (Traveller Mailing List)
Subject: Mass Driver Guns
Message-ID: <1994OCT3.8683@ozemail.com.au>

Recently I decided to see if I could construct some of the hover tanks from 
2300AD. My first step was to create their mass driver cannons. I soon came 
across some interesting/puzzling things.
1. The direct range fire formula. It says and I quote here;
"Short direct fire range in meters for a mass driver gun firing a kinetic 
kinetic penetrator round is equal to the sum of the bore diameter (in 
centimeters) and the muzzle velocity (in meters per second) all multiplied by

.015"

To my way of thinking that translates for a 7cm round at 2000m/s
(7 + 2000) * .015
= 30.105
That's not a very good range for a projectile travelling at 2000m/s

2. I'm assuming that you use the warhead design sequence for designing the 
penetrator. If that's the case, my mass driver gun from above would have 
13.47kg mass, 26.94Mj energy. Going to the KEAP section of warhead generation

this would give the penetrator a PV of 107.76. Multiply this by the
penetrator 
type (at TL-10 APFSDSCI) and you get a PV of 484.92. A little high?

3. What is everyones best quess as to the TL of 2300AD? I noticed in the 
discussion on Stutterwarp it was 13. Any others?

Peter McNae
"A leader who leads from the front until the shooting starts."









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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 10:31:09 +0100 (BST)
From: cs5025@wlv.ac.uk (L.T.Bryant)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: bows + TNE
Message-ID: <m0qrjji-0003taC@ccub.wlv.ac.uk>

Hi ALL 
 Im  back again and am still offering the 2300 wepons  for
TNE if any one wants them.

In  reply to Lenscotts question on Bows they can be found in  the
RCES  guide  but personaly i suggest getting hold  of  a  archery
catalog/  book  and working out the damage from  the  arrows  for
differnt  poundage bows using either FF&S or the infantry  wepons
guide for Twilight, as this enables the calculations to be  done,
as   some  one  who  calculated the  damage  for  a high  powered
compound  bow  ( 180 lb) and found that it did  around  the  same
damage  as a 7.62 NATO round  ( 4d damage with hellish  Pen) ,  i
will conferm there danger to contemptous players, after all  they
give  no flash and are very silent and can be used  for  indirect
fire.

Any way enough blatering 
bye for now 
L Bryant

-- 
oh rose thou art sick
               the invisible worm that flys by night.....STEEL


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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 09:09:13 -0600 (MDT)
From: merrick@RT66.com (Merrick Burkhardt)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: Things Battle-Rider
Message-ID: <9410031509.AA04657@RT66.com>

> Michael Llaneza <mllaneza@mercury.sfsu.edu> writes
> > Would anyone be interested in Battle Rider stats for the ships from 
> > Brilliant Lances and the World Tamers Handbook? Would GDW be upset if I 
> > ran them here? They weren't a lot of work to do, but I'd like to save the

> > rest of you the trouble...
> > 
> 
> Very much interested.  I may buy WTH, but I do not think I will be picking
up BL
> anyway, so I would be very interested.  Besides BL ratings, if you could
include
> (if provided) prices in MCr, I would also find that interesting.


I'd be interested too.







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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:56:04 -0500
From: ccjoe@showme.missouri.edu (Joseph Heck)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: Bows & Crossbows
Message-ID: <aab611f703021004da2e@[128.206.200.32]>

>Date: Sun, 02 Oct 94 16:30:27 EDT
>From: LENSCOTT@aol.com
>Subject: bows and crossbows

>In looking over my copy of TNE, I noticed that although there is a skill for
>archery and early firearms (which specifically includes crossbows), there are
>no weapon stats for bows, arrows, or crossbows.  Is there an errata sheet
>which includes these weapons, or has anyone else made up suitable stats for
>these?


There are a large number of these weapons details out in Reformation Coalition
Equipment Guide. They're pretty straightforward stats - Email me if you can't
find a copy.

There's also design sequences for the same in World Tamer's Handbook.

 joe                          (314) 882-5000
 ccjoe@showme.missouri.edu    University of Missouri - Columbia
 "with a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and
 imprenetrable fog!" -- Calvin
 <A HREF="http://www.missouri.edu/~ccjoe">ccjoe</A>

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